Comments on: The Cheater’s Guide and The Soul of Baseball http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/ Economic Thinking about Baseball Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:31:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Lynn http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-42310 Lynn Thu, 29 Mar 2007 03:07:50 +0000 http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/#comment-42310 I just bought Baseball Economist this morning and I am reading it. They didn't have Derek's book yet so I'll get it next week to find out about the cheating. Nice site! I just bought Baseball Economist this morning and I am reading it. They didn’t have Derek’s book yet so I’ll get it next week to find out about the cheating. Nice site!

]]> By: lep http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-42261 lep Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:01:22 +0000 http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/#comment-42261 No worries, JC. Notice I didn't try to defend Hrbek. Though for his size he was always very graceful at first base. And I should have given you props for pointing out the Braves' cheat story. I'd not heard that. What I don't understand though is wouldn't a manipulated catcher's box have hurt their hitters too, even if they knew about it? Back to the Twins, I hope you read the article I linked for your fellow blogger/author. It is very interesting. But the odds of the AC really having an impact are infinitesimal, about as much chance of that as of a baseball getting into one of those holes in the roof. Oh yeah, <a HREF="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9807E2DE123BF935A35755C0A962948260" rel="nofollow">that</a> happened once... No worries, JC. Notice I didn’t try to defend Hrbek. Though for his size he was always very graceful at first base.

And I should have given you props for pointing out the Braves’ cheat story. I’d not heard that. What I don’t understand though is wouldn’t a manipulated catcher’s box have hurt their hitters too, even if they knew about it?

Back to the Twins, I hope you read the article I linked for your fellow blogger/author. It is very interesting. But the odds of the AC really having an impact are infinitesimal, about as much chance of that as of a baseball getting into one of those holes in the roof.

Oh yeah, that happened once…

]]> By: Sealbeater http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-42255 Sealbeater Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:17:16 +0000 http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/#comment-42255 Right on Lep! The AC deal is Bunk. The Hrbek thing is just plain funny. I don't think you can truly blame Hrbek, the Ump let it go. Hey I thought both teams played great and it is one of the sports highlights of my life. Go Twins! See ya in the post season Braves fans. Right on Lep! The AC deal is Bunk. The Hrbek thing is just plain funny. I don’t think you can truly blame Hrbek, the Ump let it go. Hey I thought both teams played great and it is one of the sports highlights of my life. Go Twins! See ya in the post season Braves fans.

]]> By: JC http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-42243 JC Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:03:06 +0000 http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/#comment-42243 lep, For someone claiming to be innocent you seem to be a bit sensitive. More evidence of your guilt! :-) Just in case anyone is really mad at me, this post was meant to be humorous and tinged with the bias of an unabashed Braves fan. But seriously, check out Derek's book, because he does cover the research on using the AC to cheat. Then, if you don't like what he has to say, go get mad at him. ;-) Lynn, I don't know where to read more about the box. Derek covers it in the book, and there may be sources in the back, but I don't have the book in front of me to check. I'd try searching the archives of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. lep,

For someone claiming to be innocent you seem to be a bit sensitive. More evidence of your guilt! :-)

Just in case anyone is really mad at me, this post was meant to be humorous and tinged with the bias of an unabashed Braves fan.

But seriously, check out Derek’s book, because he does cover the research on using the AC to cheat. Then, if you don’t like what he has to say, go get mad at him. ;-)

Lynn,

I don’t know where to read more about the box. Derek covers it in the book, and there may be sources in the back, but I don’t have the book in front of me to check. I’d try searching the archives of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

]]> By: lep http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-42195 lep Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:15:53 +0000 http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/#comment-42195 Just read the <a HREF="http://www.aem.umn.edu/outreach/Baseball_Launcher/startrib1.pdf" rel="nofollow">article</a> the author referenced in #2. Yes, Dick Ericson is one of many odd Scandinavians we up here in Minnesota, but get over it. Those responsible for Puckett's home run were 1) Puckett and 2) Leibrandt. Just read the article the author referenced in #2. Yes, Dick Ericson is one of many odd Scandinavians we up here in Minnesota, but get over it. Those responsible for Puckett’s home run were 1) Puckett and 2) Leibrandt.

]]> By: lep http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-42186 lep Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:45:57 +0000 http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/#comment-42186 AC-aided home run? How about Charlie Liebrandt-aided home run? Or Lonny Smith-aided Game 7 loss? Weak, man. Weak. AC-aided home run? How about Charlie Liebrandt-aided home run? Or Lonny Smith-aided Game 7 loss? Weak, man. Weak.

]]> By: Lynn http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-42177 Lynn Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:50:30 +0000 http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/#comment-42177 Where can I read more about the Braves and the batters box? I know what james' has said about it but I want to find out more about the Braves doing something about it. Thanks! PS Looking for your book tomorrow morning! Where can I read more about the Braves and the batters box? I know what james’ has said about it but I want to find out more about the Braves doing something about it.

Thanks!

PS Looking for your book tomorrow morning!

]]> By: DMZ http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-41930 DMZ Mon, 26 Mar 2007 01:45:36 +0000 http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/#comment-41930 Thanks for the mention. The Hrbek thing's great, and I'll try and get to that in the continuing Cheater's Guide blog entries. TwinsDude: you'll have to look at the book, but there's a well-documented instance where someone with the Twins talked at length about how and when he did it, and I believe it was the Star-Tribune that investigated. Thanks for the mention. The Hrbek thing’s great, and I’ll try and get to that in the continuing Cheater’s Guide blog entries.

TwinsDude: you’ll have to look at the book, but there’s a well-documented instance where someone with the Twins talked at length about how and when he did it, and I believe it was the Star-Tribune that investigated.

]]> By: TwinsDude http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/comment-page-1/#comment-41654 TwinsDude Fri, 23 Mar 2007 18:44:52 +0000 http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/03/the-cheaters-guide-and-the-soul-of-baseball/#comment-41654 The Metrodome AC thing... MYTH! As for Kent Hrbek... I never really liked him anyway... The Metrodome AC thing… MYTH!

As for Kent Hrbek… I never really liked him anyway…

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