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	<title>Comments on: Overpaying Roger</title>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 13:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps after being badly outbid for Dice-K the Yankees decided to take no chances with Clemens.  I remember how badly Nolan Ryan faded in his last season and I would certainly be amused to Clemens have a terrible season.  Going into the season, I thought the Yankees had a great chance, but now I&#039;m not sure that they&#039;ll even be good enough to make the playoffs as a wild card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps after being badly outbid for Dice-K the Yankees decided to take no chances with Clemens.  I remember how badly Nolan Ryan faded in his last season and I would certainly be amused to Clemens have a terrible season.  Going into the season, I thought the Yankees had a great chance, but now I&#8217;m not sure that they&#8217;ll even be good enough to make the playoffs as a wild card.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 04:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I&#039;m concerned, Roger should pack up &amp; move to New York.  He surely doesn&#039;t mind stiffing his hometown team to pad his ego.  It can&#039;t be about the money.  I suppose his &quot;values&quot; have changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned, Roger should pack up &amp; move to New York.  He surely doesn&#8217;t mind stiffing his hometown team to pad his ego.  It can&#8217;t be about the money.  I suppose his &#8220;values&#8221; have changed.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 18:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You actually need to add $7-8M to the Yankees&#039; cost, for a total of about $26M, because of the luxury tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You actually need to add $7-8M to the Yankees&#8217; cost, for a total of about $26M, because of the luxury tax.</p>
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		<title>By: John Beamer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Beamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 18:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JC

Don&#039;t forget that by going to the Yanks he doesn&#039;t go to the Red Sox -- which would have been choice 2, I suspect. Therefore he is giving the Yankees, say, 2 extra wins rather than the Red Sox. In the context of the division race, ignoring the wild card for a minute, this is potentially a 4 win swing. I suspect that may get you closer to the actual contract number.

Also don&#039;t forget luxury tax ... this will add another $8m on to the bill. Now, that is expensive.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JC</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget that by going to the Yanks he doesn&#8217;t go to the Red Sox &#8212; which would have been choice 2, I suspect. Therefore he is giving the Yankees, say, 2 extra wins rather than the Red Sox. In the context of the division race, ignoring the wild card for a minute, this is potentially a 4 win swing. I suspect that may get you closer to the actual contract number.</p>
<p>Also don&#8217;t forget luxury tax &#8230; this will add another $8m on to the bill. Now, that is expensive.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 15:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the premium to get him to leave his kids behind, which was the whole reason he retired (and then unretired but only in Houston) in the first place, yes?

I&#039;m rolling my eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the premium to get him to leave his kids behind, which was the whole reason he retired (and then unretired but only in Houston) in the first place, yes?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m rolling my eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Evorgleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evorgleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 15:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the guys over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://highbridnation.highbrid.com/?p=2065&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Highbrid Nation&lt;/a&gt; wrote a very interesting post about Roger Clemems and and the &quot;real&quot; reason he has come back to play for the Yankees. Good Stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the guys over at <a href="http://highbridnation.highbrid.com/?p=2065" rel="nofollow">Highbrid Nation</a> wrote a very interesting post about Roger Clemems and and the &#8220;real&#8221; reason he has come back to play for the Yankees. Good Stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 15:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is certainly an example of the Yankees hitting the panic button and therefore overpaying.  That said, the question I now have is will other star players start doing the same thing as Clemens and wait until the season starts prior to signing a contract?  In my opinion, sitting on the sidelines and waiting for a team to have a dire need should up certain players value considerably.  Furthermore, a player could argue that they are worth more at a later point in the season because they can be had for money rather than via trade for valuable prospects.  Obviously, this could only work if just a few players did it each year, and many would have to be willing to give up about 1-2 months worth of stats and probably sign just one year deals, but I think it could work out better monetarily for a handful of players in many instances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is certainly an example of the Yankees hitting the panic button and therefore overpaying.  That said, the question I now have is will other star players start doing the same thing as Clemens and wait until the season starts prior to signing a contract?  In my opinion, sitting on the sidelines and waiting for a team to have a dire need should up certain players value considerably.  Furthermore, a player could argue that they are worth more at a later point in the season because they can be had for money rather than via trade for valuable prospects.  Obviously, this could only work if just a few players did it each year, and many would have to be willing to give up about 1-2 months worth of stats and probably sign just one year deals, but I think it could work out better monetarily for a handful of players in many instances.</p>
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