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	<title>Comments on: Does Race Influence Umpires?</title>
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		<title>By: Phil Steinmeyer</title>
		<link>http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/08/does-race-influence-umpires/comment-page-1/#comment-57288</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Steinmeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the data section of the paper, on page 24, you&#039;ll  note that there only 93 umpires included, and only 8 of those are non-white (3 Hispanic, 5 black).  That seems like a rather small sample set, although admittedly, the number of pitches judged is quite high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the data section of the paper, on page 24, you&#8217;ll  note that there only 93 umpires included, and only 8 of those are non-white (3 Hispanic, 5 black).  That seems like a rather small sample set, although admittedly, the number of pitches judged is quite high.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2007/08/does-race-influence-umpires/comment-page-1/#comment-57235</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 20:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The good news is that the effect of the bias is very small, a little less than one pitch per game.&quot;

The authors say &quot;less than one pitch per game,&quot; but unless I&#039;m misreading the paper the effect is more like one pitch every FIVE games.  They conclude the called strike rate is .0034% higher when pitcher and umpire are same race.  About one-half of pitches are called by the ump, so that means about one-quarter of a pitch per game.  And comparing 100% to 0% same-race overstates the real effect, since no racial group of pitchers is at either extreme.  Add it all up, and a white starting pitcher gains an advantage of perhaps half a run over an entire season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The good news is that the effect of the bias is very small, a little less than one pitch per game.&#8221;</p>
<p>The authors say &#8220;less than one pitch per game,&#8221; but unless I&#8217;m misreading the paper the effect is more like one pitch every FIVE games.  They conclude the called strike rate is .0034% higher when pitcher and umpire are same race.  About one-half of pitches are called by the ump, so that means about one-quarter of a pitch per game.  And comparing 100% to 0% same-race overstates the real effect, since no racial group of pitchers is at either extreme.  Add it all up, and a white starting pitcher gains an advantage of perhaps half a run over an entire season.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 20:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t this &quot;bias&quot; also fall well within the error rate that Questec has detected. How could there not be any bias against hitters? This study really doesn&#039;t make sense without bias towards them as well. 
You can find some articles on Questec and the strike zone over here http://www.hardballtimes.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t this &#8220;bias&#8221; also fall well within the error rate that Questec has detected. How could there not be any bias against hitters? This study really doesn&#8217;t make sense without bias towards them as well.<br />
You can find some articles on Questec and the strike zone over here <a href="http://www.hardballtimes.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hardballtimes.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After seeing this paper, I&#039;m starting to like QuesTec more and more.  Notice that the people who complain most loudly about QuesTec are umpires (Ever met a man who wants more performance evaluation of his own job?) and veteran, superstar pitchers like Glavine and Curt Schilling, who are used to getting a larger-than-average strike zone.  You&#039;ll never hear a rookie like Joey Devine or Martin Prado complain about QuesTec.  That&#039;s pretty good evidence that QuesTec promotes fairness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After seeing this paper, I&#8217;m starting to like QuesTec more and more.  Notice that the people who complain most loudly about QuesTec are umpires (Ever met a man who wants more performance evaluation of his own job?) and veteran, superstar pitchers like Glavine and Curt Schilling, who are used to getting a larger-than-average strike zone.  You&#8217;ll never hear a rookie like Joey Devine or Martin Prado complain about QuesTec.  That&#8217;s pretty good evidence that QuesTec promotes fairness.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t you want to also look at safe/out calls on the bases and ejections?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t you want to also look at safe/out calls on the bases and ejections?</p>
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		<title>By: Parish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Parish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Marc makes good comments.

I am a statistician and when I reached the &quot;effect of the bias is very small&quot; comment I rolled my eyes.  A little less than a pitch a game is less than a 1% sway and cannot accurately be described as bias.  The number of pitches observed in the study may reduce the margin of error below 1%, but the number of pitchers observed is not even close.  A single pitcher, bad or good, out of maybe 500-600 observed over a three year time frame can create this small of an aberration.  The fact that much more than half of the umpires and pitchers are white would locate most of this alleged bias between the two.

In my opinion, the researchers are misinterpreting the results of their study.  There is, in fact, no bias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Marc makes good comments.</p>
<p>I am a statistician and when I reached the &#8220;effect of the bias is very small&#8221; comment I rolled my eyes.  A little less than a pitch a game is less than a 1% sway and cannot accurately be described as bias.  The number of pitches observed in the study may reduce the margin of error below 1%, but the number of pitchers observed is not even close.  A single pitcher, bad or good, out of maybe 500-600 observed over a three year time frame can create this small of an aberration.  The fact that much more than half of the umpires and pitchers are white would locate most of this alleged bias between the two.</p>
<p>In my opinion, the researchers are misinterpreting the results of their study.  There is, in fact, no bias.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i imagine that 1-2 pitches a game is statistically significant, since the sample size was along the lines of n = 2.1 million.  

and, if the post is correct, claiming evidence of bias is a little different than simply attributing causation, but you&#039;re right in that no respectable social scientist would takea single study like this one and claim anything totally definitive</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i imagine that 1-2 pitches a game is statistically significant, since the sample size was along the lines of n = 2.1 million.  </p>
<p>and, if the post is correct, claiming evidence of bias is a little different than simply attributing causation, but you&#8217;re right in that no respectable social scientist would takea single study like this one and claim anything totally definitive</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 13:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not being a statistician, it&#039;s difficult to comment, but it seems to me that the guy has taken a relatively small correlation and projected causation (ie, bias).  It seems to me that most social scientists would be more cautious about making such a definitive conclusion.  And is the effect even significant?  Apparently, it&#039;s one or two pitches a game--that&#039;s not likely to effect the outcome unless they are all in critical situations.

Basically, from what I know of evolutionary psychology, humans are hard wired to favor others in their racial or communal group which would suggest that there is probably some bias in all of us (and common observation would agree.)  But, in this case, if the bias is so unconscious and the effect so small, I don&#039;t see much purpose to it.  You could just as easily spin it the opposite way--that despite human predililection for bias, the study shows that there is very little in baseball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not being a statistician, it&#8217;s difficult to comment, but it seems to me that the guy has taken a relatively small correlation and projected causation (ie, bias).  It seems to me that most social scientists would be more cautious about making such a definitive conclusion.  And is the effect even significant?  Apparently, it&#8217;s one or two pitches a game&#8211;that&#8217;s not likely to effect the outcome unless they are all in critical situations.</p>
<p>Basically, from what I know of evolutionary psychology, humans are hard wired to favor others in their racial or communal group which would suggest that there is probably some bias in all of us (and common observation would agree.)  But, in this case, if the bias is so unconscious and the effect so small, I don&#8217;t see much purpose to it.  You could just as easily spin it the opposite way&#8211;that despite human predililection for bias, the study shows that there is very little in baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Steinmeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Steinmeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MLB should roll out QuesTec in all stadiums as soon as possible.</description>
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		<title>By: S. A. Polinski</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. A. Polinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is no racial bias evident between umpires and hitters, isnt it possible (especially since the difference is only a pitch per game) that the difference is due to pitchers throwing style or release point?  Imagine the difference as an umpire of pitches coming out of the hand of Greg Maddux, Dontrelle Willis, or Diasuke Matsuzaka.  i think it would be very interesting to see a comparison of submarine throwers to straight overhand, or &quot;power pitchers&quot; to &quot;finesse pitchers&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is no racial bias evident between umpires and hitters, isnt it possible (especially since the difference is only a pitch per game) that the difference is due to pitchers throwing style or release point?  Imagine the difference as an umpire of pitches coming out of the hand of Greg Maddux, Dontrelle Willis, or Diasuke Matsuzaka.  i think it would be very interesting to see a comparison of submarine throwers to straight overhand, or &#8220;power pitchers&#8221; to &#8220;finesse pitchers&#8221;.</p>
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