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	<title>Comments on: Do It! Why the Braves Should Sign Barry Bonds</title>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JC-

I realize you wrote this before the Braves basically tanked their way out of the playoffs, but I have a few questions/points for you:

Does Barry Bonds have an adverse effect on a clubhouse? Game of Shadows depicts him as the anti-Christ, demanding a customized locker and personal physician and just being a misanthrope around his other teammates. As a manager, GM, or fan, would you want the most controversial player (and possibly the worst teammate) in the game&#039;s history just to plug in left field for 1/2 of a season?

Is it fair to assume he&#039;d duplicate last year&#039;s OBP? He didn&#039;t play in spring training, his body continues to inevitably break down as a result of years of abusing it, and his confidence has to be shot. I keep hearing &quot;the anger fuels Bonds..&quot; That&#039;s a joke, right? He played his best when steroids were just an afterthought. Since then, the absence of steroids have affected his physical and mental toughness at the plate. His production plummeted, and he really only played on days when he was up to it. And this was when a team actually wanted him. 

So this is what the Braves need? A renowned cancer in the clubhouse who probably won&#039;t even reproduce his mediocre numbers from a year ago. He&#039;d probably generate walks, but an extra runner on first base every other day wouldn&#039;t matter for a team that can&#039;t hit in the clutch. 

Also, defense is more important than you&#039;re letting on. Left field might be the least important defensive position on the field, but think about the liklihood of Bonds lasting half of a season out there. Last year, the guy could barely run to first base and play left field while playing every other game. 

That&#039;s why I disagree. I agree wtih you on the fact that fans would sacrifice reputation for performance any day, but in this case we don&#039;t even get performance. So why disrespect Aaron for a player that&#039;s not going to make a difference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JC-</p>
<p>I realize you wrote this before the Braves basically tanked their way out of the playoffs, but I have a few questions/points for you:</p>
<p>Does Barry Bonds have an adverse effect on a clubhouse? Game of Shadows depicts him as the anti-Christ, demanding a customized locker and personal physician and just being a misanthrope around his other teammates. As a manager, GM, or fan, would you want the most controversial player (and possibly the worst teammate) in the game&#8217;s history just to plug in left field for 1/2 of a season?</p>
<p>Is it fair to assume he&#8217;d duplicate last year&#8217;s OBP? He didn&#8217;t play in spring training, his body continues to inevitably break down as a result of years of abusing it, and his confidence has to be shot. I keep hearing &#8220;the anger fuels Bonds..&#8221; That&#8217;s a joke, right? He played his best when steroids were just an afterthought. Since then, the absence of steroids have affected his physical and mental toughness at the plate. His production plummeted, and he really only played on days when he was up to it. And this was when a team actually wanted him. </p>
<p>So this is what the Braves need? A renowned cancer in the clubhouse who probably won&#8217;t even reproduce his mediocre numbers from a year ago. He&#8217;d probably generate walks, but an extra runner on first base every other day wouldn&#8217;t matter for a team that can&#8217;t hit in the clutch. </p>
<p>Also, defense is more important than you&#8217;re letting on. Left field might be the least important defensive position on the field, but think about the liklihood of Bonds lasting half of a season out there. Last year, the guy could barely run to first base and play left field while playing every other game. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I disagree. I agree wtih you on the fact that fans would sacrifice reputation for performance any day, but in this case we don&#8217;t even get performance. So why disrespect Aaron for a player that&#8217;s not going to make a difference?</p>
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		<title>By: Art Vandeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Vandeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 04:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JC, 

You&#039;re absolutely right.  The Braves have an anemic offense and are one of the most boring teams to watch on TV (along with my hometown Padres).  Bonds gives me a reason to pay attention.  

I think he&#039;d thrive with the Yankees, playing to sell outs at home and on the road.  But, unfortunately, the Selig edict seems to have been passed down to every team not to sign him.

Too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JC, </p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right.  The Braves have an anemic offense and are one of the most boring teams to watch on TV (along with my hometown Padres).  Bonds gives me a reason to pay attention.  </p>
<p>I think he&#8217;d thrive with the Yankees, playing to sell outs at home and on the road.  But, unfortunately, the Selig edict seems to have been passed down to every team not to sign him.</p>
<p>Too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, and I&#039;m not a fan of Bonds, and in general really dislike what the stain of PEDs has done to the game, but all the people who make him out to be public enemy number one, it actually makes me feel sympathetic for him.  I never thought I&#039;d say that about Bonds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, and I&#8217;m not a fan of Bonds, and in general really dislike what the stain of PEDs has done to the game, but all the people who make him out to be public enemy number one, it actually makes me feel sympathetic for him.  I never thought I&#8217;d say that about Bonds.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The concept of &quot;real Braves fans&quot; who would &lt;em&gt;never&lt;/em&gt; support Bonds is laughable.  It sounds like the way I thought about baseball when I was 10.

I&#039;m baffled how people can come to an intelligent, rational site like JC&#039;s and react so irrationally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept of &#8220;real Braves fans&#8221; who would <em>never</em> support Bonds is laughable.  It sounds like the way I thought about baseball when I was 10.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m baffled how people can come to an intelligent, rational site like JC&#8217;s and react so irrationally.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JC I love this idea. I have been thinking about this since the injury bug started to bite Chipper again.

Braves Girl: It is wrong to compare Diaz and Ichiro in OBP over the last two years in that Ichrio has more than double the at bats than Diaz. (Ichrio in 06&amp; 07 has 1373 AB&#039;s/ Diaz 655) Diaz is a below average hitter (just throw him an outside slider and he will K every time) and a below average outfielder.

And as far as revenue goes it makes perfect sense, since this is a business. People would line up around the corner just to boo him. The main goal here is to make a profit.

Oh JC one question. How long before the Braves send Manny Acosta else where but on the mound to blow games?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JC I love this idea. I have been thinking about this since the injury bug started to bite Chipper again.</p>
<p>Braves Girl: It is wrong to compare Diaz and Ichiro in OBP over the last two years in that Ichrio has more than double the at bats than Diaz. (Ichrio in 06&amp; 07 has 1373 AB&#8217;s/ Diaz 655) Diaz is a below average hitter (just throw him an outside slider and he will K every time) and a below average outfielder.</p>
<p>And as far as revenue goes it makes perfect sense, since this is a business. People would line up around the corner just to boo him. The main goal here is to make a profit.</p>
<p>Oh JC one question. How long before the Braves send Manny Acosta else where but on the mound to blow games?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jschneider says: 

So Smoltz is a bad man because he compared homosexuality to bestiality?? Thats rediculous. I say it makes him a better man and I like him even more now.

Thats exactly what I was thinking!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jschneider says: </p>
<p>So Smoltz is a bad man because he compared homosexuality to bestiality?? Thats rediculous. I say it makes him a better man and I like him even more now.</p>
<p>Thats exactly what I was thinking!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: mflournoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>mflournoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trav, most slumps don&#039;t last two years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trav, most slumps don&#8217;t last two years.</p>
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		<title>By: Trav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also do not agree with the way people are bashing Frenchy on here. I mean he is in a terrible slump and is still well in reach of getting 100 RBIs and still has one of if not the strongest arm among ML outfielders. Everybody goes into a slump at some point, I mean Tex started the season horribly but nobody gave up on him, If Frenchy was hitting .300 with fifteen bombs and fifty to sixty RBI, yaull would think he was the best thing since loafed bread. He will figure it out. And our OF is nowhere near the worst in the majors especially when Kotsay is in, Kotsay Blanco and Frenchy, Ill take that, Blanco is really establishing himself in that leadoff spot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also do not agree with the way people are bashing Frenchy on here. I mean he is in a terrible slump and is still well in reach of getting 100 RBIs and still has one of if not the strongest arm among ML outfielders. Everybody goes into a slump at some point, I mean Tex started the season horribly but nobody gave up on him, If Frenchy was hitting .300 with fifteen bombs and fifty to sixty RBI, yaull would think he was the best thing since loafed bread. He will figure it out. And our OF is nowhere near the worst in the majors especially when Kotsay is in, Kotsay Blanco and Frenchy, Ill take that, Blanco is really establishing himself in that leadoff spot!</p>
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		<title>By: Trav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok im not totally against signing Bonds. I would be hesitant as he will be a huge distraction. However I mean it makes a lot of since from a lineup stand point. I do disagree with batting Tex in the 2 hole though and I have reason. 1st off he is 2nd or third on the team in strikeouts this year and the 2 hole needs to be better at getting on base, 2nd Tex will end up with nearly of not over 40 HRs this year, so why waste 20 to 30 HRs with solo or 1 run HRs? Third imagine this, (assuming Kotsay stays hurt)Gregor and Yunel get on you now have a .394 30 hr+ hitter, and 2 40+ HR hitters with no outs and 2 men on, I like those odds! Also it makes it impossible to pitch around Chipper or Tex. The only concern I would have is Barry is a left handed bat and we have struggled terribly against lefties, but you do have Diaz who eats lefties for lunch so a platoon with those may lead to good things, but i think it would be wishful thinking at best, given his reputation and the tradition of the braves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok im not totally against signing Bonds. I would be hesitant as he will be a huge distraction. However I mean it makes a lot of since from a lineup stand point. I do disagree with batting Tex in the 2 hole though and I have reason. 1st off he is 2nd or third on the team in strikeouts this year and the 2 hole needs to be better at getting on base, 2nd Tex will end up with nearly of not over 40 HRs this year, so why waste 20 to 30 HRs with solo or 1 run HRs? Third imagine this, (assuming Kotsay stays hurt)Gregor and Yunel get on you now have a .394 30 hr+ hitter, and 2 40+ HR hitters with no outs and 2 men on, I like those odds! Also it makes it impossible to pitch around Chipper or Tex. The only concern I would have is Barry is a left handed bat and we have struggled terribly against lefties, but you do have Diaz who eats lefties for lunch so a platoon with those may lead to good things, but i think it would be wishful thinking at best, given his reputation and the tradition of the braves.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan B Booker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan B Booker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry does not deserved to be treated like he is blackballed. It makes good baseball sense to sign barry if the braves want to win. Barry is a winner and one of the greatest players ever and he has earn this shot of continuing his career and finish on a high note. Alanta Braves PLEASE SIGN BARRY and then kick the snot out of the Giants</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry does not deserved to be treated like he is blackballed. It makes good baseball sense to sign barry if the braves want to win. Barry is a winner and one of the greatest players ever and he has earn this shot of continuing his career and finish on a high note. Alanta Braves PLEASE SIGN BARRY and then kick the snot out of the Giants</p>
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