Comments on: Why Does Everyone Want Frenchy to Go the Other Way?

By: Ron

Ron — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:49:59 +0000

The whole point of suggesting Jeff hit to RF was to compensate for his lack of plate discipline. IOW, if pitchers know he’ll swing at anything and therefore throw him lots of sliders away he can counter that by hitting those pitches to RF. He has no chance of doing anything useful with those pitches by pulling them. Of course in the ideal world he would learn the strike zone and not swing at sliders in the left hand batter box at all. But as we’ve all seen Jeff just isn’t smart enough to develop that kind of pitch recognition. At least by hitting the off speed junk pitchers bombarded him with to right Jeff was able to turn in a not completely useless OBP last season. This year unfortunately he seems to have regressed badly. Going back to being a dead pull hitter might earn him a couple more homers but it wouldn’t solve his inability to recognize a bad ball and lay off it.

I’d say he is basically a lost cause and hopefully once he becomes eligible for arbitration and thus too expensive for his (lack of) production the Braves will trade him or decline to make him an offer.

By: Varoadrunner

Varoadrunner — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:20:31 +0000

I cannot agree with you based on those numbers. How many attempts werfe made to hit to off field vs how many times he pulled. A big descrepency!

And how about all the bases loaded situations where he attempted to pull an outside pitch and grounded into an out or a DP. Come on guys, he needs an attitude adjustment. It’s rediculous to provide any atta boiys to Franceour now. And it’s his head – Not his hitting ability. He feels he MUST pull and we all know what happened to Andruw when he abandoned hitting the ball where it was pitched.

Pulling outside pitches results in poor results!

By: Ken

Ken — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:34:22 +0000

No offense but this post doesn’t really say much. If Francouer can only hit by pulling the ball, of course every pitcher is going to be throwing him away. If he can’t adapt to walking more and learning to hit the away pitches pitchers will exploit him and he is going to fail as a MLB outfielder.

You defend his style while being unwilling to accept that his style of swing has consequences to his outcomes as a hitter.

By: Cliff

Cliff — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:36:13 +0000

JC,

Your table needs work. Adding the numbers across has right field OPS almost at left field level. I think they ae misaligned. However, I tried several assumptions there and couldn’t make it work there, either.

One difference I could detect is number of balls in play each way. Clearly, Pendleton made more of an effort to hit the ball to the opposite field.

If pitchers pitch a player away, away, away, and then inside only when they try to lean, they will NEVER get an OPS worth a damn.

As to the Dale Murphy quote, after he had been up about 2 years he developed (and continued to improve) an ability to take that low and away curve ball and pick it up and hit it out to right center field. Before that, they struck him out with low and away junk almost as bad as they do Francoeur. By Murphy’s 5th or 6th year 40% or so of his HR’s were going out right of center field.

By: Frank

Frank — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:02:40 +0000

What about those of us who just want him to go away?

By: JeG

JeG — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:45:12 +0000

Completely agree — Francoeur needs to solely focus on pitch recognition and pulling the ball.

Furthermore, is it just me, or does Joe Simpson drive everyone nuts? I feel like his comments are almost always way off base, and this year especially, he seems devoted to reminding everyone that he used to be a major league player. Given his career stats, you wouldn’t think it would be something he would dwell on.

When he and Chip Caray are calling a game together… I find myself wishing that I could turn off the voices and only listen to the sounds of the game.

By: Rick

Rick — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:36:33 +0000

Hitting to the opposite field is an excellent skill to have. I favor the philosophy of hit where the pitcher throws it. If it’s middle in then you should go up the middle and/or pull the ball. If it’s middle out then you should go opposite field with it.
Unless you have a very disciplined bat and a n inside out swing you really can’t hit to the opposite field on demand. Unfortunately, Francoeur has neither a disciplined bat or an inside out swing. He takes some of the biggest cuts at the plate that I can remember. That’s probably part of his problem. He hasn’t learned to adapt his swing to different pitches. It’s pretty much all or nothing.
If you try to go opposite field on an inside half pitch, odds are that you will hit some weak grounder or pop-up for an out. Same if you try to pull a pitch on the outside part of the plate.

With the amount of pitches that he sees on the outside part of the plate it would be nice if he could hit it to RF sometimes to keep the pitcher honest. Good hitters learn to adapt to what the pitcher throws them. Unfortunately, he hasn’t reached “good” status yet.