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		<title>By: jadarm</title>
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		<dc:creator>jadarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I truly appreciate the way Hank hit the ball and everything that he went through during his run at the HR record. 

...I dont see how that exactly translates in to him knowing how to run a top tiered MLB organization. I think his role with the Braves is mainly an honorary one given to him in recognition of his playing days, not based on his scouting or managerial skills. 

He needs to stick to his few autograph sessions that he does and a few gratuitous interviews for PR purposes. 

As it is, Hank has been vocal in the past, ....contrary to how Bobby Cox does business....and maybe it might be for the best for him to go and help some other club run their organization. 

A lifelong Braves fan,

-Jadarm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly appreciate the way Hank hit the ball and everything that he went through during his run at the HR record. </p>
<p>&#8230;I dont see how that exactly translates in to him knowing how to run a top tiered MLB organization. I think his role with the Braves is mainly an honorary one given to him in recognition of his playing days, not based on his scouting or managerial skills. </p>
<p>He needs to stick to his few autograph sessions that he does and a few gratuitous interviews for PR purposes. </p>
<p>As it is, Hank has been vocal in the past, &#8230;.contrary to how Bobby Cox does business&#8230;.and maybe it might be for the best for him to go and help some other club run their organization. </p>
<p>A lifelong Braves fan,</p>
<p>-Jadarm</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue isn&#039;t Terrence Moore or even Hank Aaron.  Aaron hasn&#039;t played a significant role with the Braves in years.  The issue is what JC is talking about, conflict within the organization itself.  My feeling has always been that, as long as John Schuerholz is around, Wren will never have any authority over Bobby Cox.  Many of the personnel decisions, such as keeping a non-entity like Corky Miller on the team,  smells like a Cox decision because he likes to keep these kinds of guys around.  I&#039;m sure the decision to recall Francoeur so soon and stick him back in the lineup was Cox&#039;s.   The fact is, this is Bobby Cox&#039;s team and will be as long as he wants to stay, which apparently is forever.  Cox did a very good job as GM in the 80s and has obviously been a good manager, but his recent tactical and player moves are inexplicable.  I don&#039;t think Wren is really running the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue isn&#8217;t Terrence Moore or even Hank Aaron.  Aaron hasn&#8217;t played a significant role with the Braves in years.  The issue is what JC is talking about, conflict within the organization itself.  My feeling has always been that, as long as John Schuerholz is around, Wren will never have any authority over Bobby Cox.  Many of the personnel decisions, such as keeping a non-entity like Corky Miller on the team,  smells like a Cox decision because he likes to keep these kinds of guys around.  I&#8217;m sure the decision to recall Francoeur so soon and stick him back in the lineup was Cox&#8217;s.   The fact is, this is Bobby Cox&#8217;s team and will be as long as he wants to stay, which apparently is forever.  Cox did a very good job as GM in the 80s and has obviously been a good manager, but his recent tactical and player moves are inexplicable.  I don&#8217;t think Wren is really running the show.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not according to &lt;a href=&quot;http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3476648&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Frank Wren&lt;/a&gt;.




&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Yes, the three guys going on the DL made it possible, but it really was Jeff&#039;s performance down there that made this happen,&quot; said Braves general manager Frank Wren. &quot;Jeff&#039;s performance made it something we could consider.&quot;

Added Wren: &quot;It wasn&#039;t for need. We didn&#039;t lose an outfielder. We lost two pitchers and Omar Infante, who plays all over.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Between Anderson, B. Jones, Blanco, Perry, and Kotsay; the Braves had plenty of replacements. And when the outfield became healthy and Jeffy was still stinking up the joint, he was not returned to Mississippi. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not according to <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3476648" rel="nofollow">Frank Wren</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Yes, the three guys going on the DL made it possible, but it really was Jeff&#8217;s performance down there that made this happen,&#8221; said Braves general manager Frank Wren. &#8220;Jeff&#8217;s performance made it something we could consider.&#8221;</p>
<p>Added Wren: &#8220;It wasn&#8217;t for need. We didn&#8217;t lose an outfielder. We lost two pitchers and Omar Infante, who plays all over.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Between Anderson, B. Jones, Blanco, Perry, and Kotsay; the Braves had plenty of replacements. And when the outfield became healthy and Jeffy was still stinking up the joint, he was not returned to Mississippi.</p>
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		<title>By: Bravesfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bravesfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason Francoeur was brought back up so fast is because of injuries. Also Francoeur&#039;s 7 for 13 effort helped too. It isn&#039;t hard to imagine Aaron and Cox butting heads.

Also I understand this time that TM didn&#039;t go out looking for BS but that is usually all that man is good for. He is the most negative person I have ever seen. He NEVER just takes the good outta anything but instead prefers to examine the negative. I guess it has to do with the way he grew up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason Francoeur was brought back up so fast is because of injuries. Also Francoeur&#8217;s 7 for 13 effort helped too. It isn&#8217;t hard to imagine Aaron and Cox butting heads.</p>
<p>Also I understand this time that TM didn&#8217;t go out looking for BS but that is usually all that man is good for. He is the most negative person I have ever seen. He NEVER just takes the good outta anything but instead prefers to examine the negative. I guess it has to do with the way he grew up.</p>
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		<title>By: PatioDaddio</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatioDaddio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this needs to be read to put things into perspective.. This is a fine piece by Bill Shanks.

http://braves.scout.com/2/793854.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this needs to be read to put things into perspective.. This is a fine piece by Bill Shanks.</p>
<p><a href="http://braves.scout.com/2/793854.html" rel="nofollow">http://braves.scout.com/2/793854.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: northbeach Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>northbeach Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rather, Aaron, not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rather, Aaron, not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: northbeach Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>northbeach Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atl fans loved Hank as a ballplayer.  As an excutive he has proven to be ineffectual and a dim bulb.  Atl fans will recognize the hand of Aaron&#039;s wife Billie agitating Hank to correct some perceived slight.

While Terrance Moore is a notorious tool, this is all coming from Hank and Billie.  Aaron should be fired for airing Braves dirty laundry.  Too bad Aaron, a top five player, is such a bitter old man.

I am not a fan of Cox, I want him fired as well because of poor results.  However, Cox has proven to have a good eye for talent--Cox not so much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atl fans loved Hank as a ballplayer.  As an excutive he has proven to be ineffectual and a dim bulb.  Atl fans will recognize the hand of Aaron&#8217;s wife Billie agitating Hank to correct some perceived slight.</p>
<p>While Terrance Moore is a notorious tool, this is all coming from Hank and Billie.  Aaron should be fired for airing Braves dirty laundry.  Too bad Aaron, a top five player, is such a bitter old man.</p>
<p>I am not a fan of Cox, I want him fired as well because of poor results.  However, Cox has proven to have a good eye for talent&#8211;Cox not so much</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We might also remember that Hank was gung ho to trade a young Tom Glavine to the Red Sox for an aging LFer, Mike Greenwell. Cox fought him on it and won.  Greenwell spent most of the next couple years on the IR and then retired.  Rumors at the time had Cox and Hank banging heads, with Cox always wanting more pitching and Hank wanting power hitters. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We might also remember that Hank was gung ho to trade a young Tom Glavine to the Red Sox for an aging LFer, Mike Greenwell. Cox fought him on it and won.  Greenwell spent most of the next couple years on the IR and then retired.  Rumors at the time had Cox and Hank banging heads, with Cox always wanting more pitching and Hank wanting power hitters. </p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering that he was putting quotes from Aaron in the column, it doesn&#039;t really matter if you like Moore or not. If it helps, just take out the quotes from Aaron and read them.
As for the Braves, this is just another example, along with the ones cited by JC as well as others, that point to the Braves being an organization that really doesn&#039;t know what direction they want to take the franchise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering that he was putting quotes from Aaron in the column, it doesn&#8217;t really matter if you like Moore or not. If it helps, just take out the quotes from Aaron and read them.<br />
As for the Braves, this is just another example, along with the ones cited by JC as well as others, that point to the Braves being an organization that really doesn&#8217;t know what direction they want to take the franchise.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Moore is just and agitator, then a quick rebuke from Aaron should set things straight. Until that happens, and combined with other actions by the organization, I think it&#039;s safe to assume that there&#039;s conflict.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Moore is just and agitator, then a quick rebuke from Aaron should set things straight. Until that happens, and combined with other actions by the organization, I think it&#8217;s safe to assume that there&#8217;s conflict.</p>
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