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	<title>Comments on: What Will CC Sabathia Get?</title>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2008/10/what-will-cc-sabathia-get/comment-page-1/#comment-105013</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,

Roy Halladay.

Best starter in the game. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>Roy Halladay.</p>
<p>Best starter in the game. </p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,
Webb was re-signed during his arbitration years, before he could go onto the open market and offer his services to several clubs.  That&#039;s why Albert Pujols&#039; deal (7/$100) or Dan Haren&#039;s (4/$44) are both so under market value.  If Webb was on the open market, he&#039;d definitely be looking at $20 million a year or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,<br />
Webb was re-signed during his arbitration years, before he could go onto the open market and offer his services to several clubs.  That&#8217;s why Albert Pujols&#8217; deal (7/$100) or Dan Haren&#8217;s (4/$44) are both so under market value.  If Webb was on the open market, he&#8217;d definitely be looking at $20 million a year or so.</p>
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		<title>By: AgRej</title>
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		<dc:creator>AgRej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 01:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only letting Sheets and Gagné go is 22 million a year. I think the Brewers are going to keep him for 6 years at 22 million a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only letting Sheets and Gagné go is 22 million a year. I think the Brewers are going to keep him for 6 years at 22 million a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Millsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think someone already said it, but is there reason to think the &#039;age&#039; adjustment in the model may also need a &#039;fat guy&#039; adjustment?  After these two great years, I think Sabathia will see around $20 million, too.  Seems like this offseason calls for some big market teams to get into a bidding war for a pitcher so that should keep him up.  The possibility of trading for Jake Peavy may have an interesting push for bidding teams with prospects to trade.  It seems like carrying the weight Sabathia does, his body may break down earlier than most.  This may be impossible to quantify, but may have an effect when people start bidding for more than a few years on a contract for a pitcher like him.  Has anyone looked into weight concerns in pitchers as they age?  Sidney Ponson comes to mind (not that he was EVER CC).  Maybe a &#039;drinking problem&#039; adjustment? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think someone already said it, but is there reason to think the &#8216;age&#8217; adjustment in the model may also need a &#8216;fat guy&#8217; adjustment?  After these two great years, I think Sabathia will see around $20 million, too.  Seems like this offseason calls for some big market teams to get into a bidding war for a pitcher so that should keep him up.  The possibility of trading for Jake Peavy may have an interesting push for bidding teams with prospects to trade.  It seems like carrying the weight Sabathia does, his body may break down earlier than most.  This may be impossible to quantify, but may have an effect when people start bidding for more than a few years on a contract for a pitcher like him.  Has anyone looked into weight concerns in pitchers as they age?  Sidney Ponson comes to mind (not that he was EVER CC).  Maybe a &#8216;drinking problem&#8217; adjustment? </p>
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		<title>By: BunkerHill1776</title>
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		<dc:creator>BunkerHill1776</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Sabathia will be the number 1 target of the Boston Red Sox......CC, Beckett, Lester, DiceK, Wakes and a bullpen of Masterson, Paps, MDC, Oki with some FA Middle relief.........
And still have some young talent to trade for a Catcher (Texas).........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Sabathia will be the number 1 target of the Boston Red Sox&#8230;&#8230;CC, Beckett, Lester, DiceK, Wakes and a bullpen of Masterson, Paps, MDC, Oki with some FA Middle relief&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
And still have some young talent to trade for a Catcher (Texas)&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AndrewYF</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndrewYF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Webb is also a lesser pitcher than CC Sabathia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Webb is also a lesser pitcher than CC Sabathia.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,
Brandon Webb is only 1 year older, and has no injury concerns. He is also in much better shape than CC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,<br />
Brandon Webb is only 1 year older, and has no injury concerns. He is also in much better shape than CC.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your numbers sound about right to me, although Milwaukee might get him back for &quot;only&quot; $22 million a year if they make it a 7 year deal instead of 6.  I don&#039;t see him signing anywhere for $20 million or less per year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your numbers sound about right to me, although Milwaukee might get him back for &#8220;only&#8221; $22 million a year if they make it a 7 year deal instead of 6.  I don&#8217;t see him signing anywhere for $20 million or less per year.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Houghton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Houghton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you project for him for seven years (starting in 2008); that is, if you leave this year out of the calculations?

(Yes, I am old enough to remember Rick &quot;16 and 1&quot; Sutcliffe.  How did you know?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you project for him for seven years (starting in 2008); that is, if you leave this year out of the calculations?</p>
<p>(Yes, I am old enough to remember Rick &#8220;16 and 1&#8243; Sutcliffe.  How did you know?)</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The salary growth rate is 10%, which includes inflation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The salary growth rate is 10%, which includes inflation.</p>
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