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		<title>By: Millsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Millsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey JC,

Through your model to you see any continued inefficiency that may lead us to think Saves are overvalued in any way?  Just a curiosity, as the idea that &quot;getting lots of saves means you should definitely be a closer&quot; seems to be slowly eroding (as far as I can see in the media).  See your Braves this past year, for example.  Just wondering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey JC,</p>
<p>Through your model to you see any continued inefficiency that may lead us to think Saves are overvalued in any way?  Just a curiosity, as the idea that &#8220;getting lots of saves means you should definitely be a closer&#8221; seems to be slowly eroding (as far as I can see in the media).  See your Braves this past year, for example.  Just wondering.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grst, 

Very good question. In my comparisons of free-agent salaries to player marginal revenue products, I&#039;m finding teams may be overpaying for starting pitchers. Teams appear to be getting position players and relievers right.  This anomaly could be explained by a few bad contracts or if very good teams (which value wins more than average teams) are signing a lot of free agents---pushing the wages above the expected marginal revenue product on an average team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grst, </p>
<p>Very good question. In my comparisons of free-agent salaries to player marginal revenue products, I&#8217;m finding teams may be overpaying for starting pitchers. Teams appear to be getting position players and relievers right.  This anomaly could be explained by a few bad contracts or if very good teams (which value wins more than average teams) are signing a lot of free agents&#8212;pushing the wages above the expected marginal revenue product on an average team.</p>
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		<title>By: Grst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which raises an obvious question: what&#039;s undervalued (if anything) in today&#039;s market?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which raises an obvious question: what&#8217;s undervalued (if anything) in today&#8217;s market?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you have the aphorism reversed. It&#039;s &quot;The plural of anecdote is NOT data&quot;. At least that&#039;s what statisticians say, to emphasize that a large sample of haphazardly collected data should not be trusted over a smaller sample of properly collected data. Perhaps economists say the opposite? See http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=163824.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you have the aphorism reversed. It&#8217;s &#8220;The plural of anecdote is NOT data&#8221;. At least that&#8217;s what statisticians say, to emphasize that a large sample of haphazardly collected data should not be trusted over a smaller sample of properly collected data. Perhaps economists say the opposite? See <a href="http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=163824" rel="nofollow">http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=163824</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s truly fascinating stuff. I wonder what this data will look like 5 or 10 years down the road. Will the market eventually forget? Or maybe it might cultivate so many OBP guys that prices fall, and then some other metric (maye not yet invented) correlates with salary? Who knows, it might be happening right now (considering the apparent decline in 2007).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s truly fascinating stuff. I wonder what this data will look like 5 or 10 years down the road. Will the market eventually forget? Or maybe it might cultivate so many OBP guys that prices fall, and then some other metric (maye not yet invented) correlates with salary? Who knows, it might be happening right now (considering the apparent decline in 2007).</p>
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